Crossfit Director Of Competition Adrian Bozman Details New Divisions, Supporting Every Entrant - Morning Chalk Up


Sean: 00:00 – Hi everybody and welcome to another edition of Two-Brain Radio with Sean Woodland. Today I talk with one of the OGs of CrossFit, Adrian Bozman. First, as an entrepreneur, it can be hard lớn know where to start. That’s where “Founder, Farmer, Tinker, Thief” by Chris Cooper comes in. As reader and gym owner Shawn Rider says, quote, “If you are thinking about starting a business, just started a business or have had a business mở cửa for a while, this book is a must-read lớn show you the path khổng lồ the successful life.” over quote. “Founder, Farmer, Tinker Thief” is on Amazon now. Adrian Bozman is one of the few people in the world of CrossFit who is best known by his nickname, Boz. He has been around the thể thao and the training methodology for nearly 15 years. Boz has been a thành viên of the L1 seminar staff and currently serves as one of the head judges at the CrossFit Games. We talk about how he initially got involved with CrossFit, what it’s lượt thích dealing with some of the more interesting questions he fields from athletes during competition & some of his memorable moments from his time on the L1 staff. Thanks for listening everyone. Boz, thanks for doing this man. How you been?

Boz: 01:18 – I’ve been pretty OK, Sean. Thank you for having me. I’m really touched that you would think of me.

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Sean: 01:22 – Well, it’s my pleasure. I know you got some great stories khổng lồ tell and you’re one of these guys that I think people who regardless of when they got involved in CrossFit, you’ve always been there. How did you find CrossFit?

Boz: 01:34 – Well I was lucky enough khổng lồ be living in the cất cánh Area in the early 2000s. Và I was working as a personal trainer at the time và this is like 2004 probably. & my wife had gone out of town. Và I just stumbled across the trang web when I was at home on the computer & started dabbling with some of the workouts. And, you know, in San Francisco at the time where I lived, it was about an hour khổng lồ get down khổng lồ the original Santa Cruz gym. And so I did that a couple of times. I just went there và I remember doing a workout with Nicole. It was dumbbell thrusters & 400-meter runs or something lượt thích that. & it was just terrible. Và yeah, I mean it was just one of those things where it literally came across my plate, just cyber surfing as they used to call it. And I didn’t look back, you know, that was it really.

Sean: 02:33 – What was it about it that hooked you?

Boz: 02:36 – You know, I think that for me the appeal has always been—fitness as a landscape, I think is just littered with all sorts of trash. Oh man. I’m sorry. There’s a truck coming. Is that too noisy?

Sean: 02:51 – It’s not a problem.

Boz: 02:52 – OK, perfect. Fitness as a landscape I think has always been just lượt thích wasteland. Just snake oil và waste-of-time programs and everybody trying khổng lồ be a derivative of something that actually worked at some point generations ago. & CrossFit to lớn me really at its essence was a stripping away of just the useless bloat that fitness had become. And I thought that was really cool. It was like, oh, well who are the fastest athletes? Well, track & field people, let’s vị some of that. OK, well who are the strongest athletes? Powerlifters; let’s vị some of that. Who’s got the best toàn thân control? Gymnastics, let’s vày some of that. Và I thought the utility of that was great và I still do. Và I guess philosophically that is still what resonates khổng lồ me the most, is cutting away the stuff that really doesn’t need to be there.

Sean: 03:50 – You mentioned that you were working as a physical trainer—or personal trainer, but what was your athletic background prior to getting involved in CrossFit?

Boz: 03:59 – You know, honestly I wasn’t that much of an athlete. I was active growing up, but I didn’t play a lot of sports in a, lượt thích a real, I dunno, what’s the word? like I wasn’t an athlete on teams or anything like that. Lượt thích when I was much younger, my parents—I did soccer and like T-ball và stuff like that, but certainly nothing in middle school & high school. But I was really active, you know, where I grew up we were 10 minutes from the beach và 30 minutes from a ski hill. So my brother và I were always hiking & skiing and mountain biking và kayaking and rock climbing và stuff lượt thích that. So a lot of individual pursuits, but nothing really serious. I did a lot of gymnastics as a kid. But again, that didn’t last. I did that for like five or six years through my preteens and lượt thích middle teens I guess. & then not much. I mean, I was a band kid. That was my real deal. For real. I went to lớn university to lớn study music. That was my path in life at that time.

Sean: 05:14 – Interesting. So you mentioned that you got khổng lồ go to that original CrossFit Santa Cruz and you mentioned Nicole Carroll và some of the OGs of CrossFit. What was it like throwing down with them at the beginning of this whole thing?

Boz: 05:29 – You know, at the time I wasn’t really throwing down with them. It was show up và Nicole was coaching a class, so you just took the class that she was coaching, or Annie, or you know, whoever. So throwing down with them, that didn’t happen till much later và man, I tell you, it was lượt thích everybody else at that point, they were & still are, I mean, they’re such specimens & just a testament khổng lồ what I think the high end of the program can deliver. That it was almost unthinkable that you’d lượt thích work out with them. You know, that’s obviously my own mental buildup or whatever. But yeah, there wasn’t much working out with them at that point that, that came later.

Sean: 06:15 – How did you come lớn get involved with the L1 staff?

Boz: 06:19 – So I ended up working at San Francisco CrossFit. I started there in 2006 shortly after I did my màn chơi 1. I did my level 1 in February, 2006. & Kelly at the time was part of the seminar staff, Kelly Starrett, and they were looking for more people lớn start helping out with that & they were growing the team. And, honestly I think it was through him that he recommended that I give it a shot & then also recommended to the CrossFit team at that point that I’d be a good fit. So they brought me out and, you know, I guess I didn’t screw it up too badly. They kept asking me back và eventually they said, hey, we’re gonna pay you to show up. & I was like, OK, great.

Sean: 07:06 – Those seminars were like, I mean, that’s like 12 years ago. I mean, that’s at the very beginning, what were those seminars like at that point?

Boz: 07:16 – You know, at that point they were different. There was a lot of people, I mean we would have a hundred people at a seminar at some of them. And there was a lot of staff too because we were trying to lớn build the team, you know, so there was a lot of people that would come back through & help out. So it was different và the material was there as far as like the same movements và the same basic ideas, but it just wasn’t polished yet, you know, lượt thích it hadn’t been refined to lớn what it is now, so it was just a little bit more raw. I guess if you had khổng lồ describe it.

Sean: 07:53 – Part of that life is you’re on the road basically every weekend, you go into a different city, sometimes different countries. What was it lượt thích kind of living out of a suitcase for that long?

Boz: 08:02 – Oh man. I mean it was great. I spent a decade và I was on the road three lớn four days a week for most of that 10 years. & I loved it. I think as far as an opportunity, it’s like, man, I went to so many places & met so many people that I’d never get the chance to vì chưng otherwise. That was awesome. You know, there’s the—Houston looks the same as a khách sạn in Switzerland & being bounced around time zones like that can be tough, but man, I wouldn’t have traded that experience. You know, if I had to lớn go back & do it all again, the one thing that I’m realizing that I didn’t do very well was balance my own hobbies and pursuits. When I really started traveling hardcore, I didn’t vày a lot other than that, which is OK, but if I had to bởi vì it all over again, that’s what I would want myself lớn do. You know, I had a couple of hobbies that I kind of stopped pursuing just because I wasn’t around và I didn’t have the discipline to keep it up when I was around. So if I had khổng lồ change one thing, that’s what I would do. But overall, man, that was, I mean, that was an awesome experience.

Sean: 09:16 – What makes those seminars so special?

Boz: 09:21 – I think it’s a combination of things. I think the instructors are awesome. I mean to lớn a T every single one of those people is just phenomenal and positive and has a ton of experience. & I think what really separates it is that they genuinely want everybody in that group to lớn get the information that they have và to vì well with it. Và I think that that translates really well. You know, as a culture, I think the cấp độ 1 staff does an awesome job of prioritizing that. It’s like, well, you can teach the technical aspects of how to lớn coach somebody lớn nearly anyone you want, but the intangibles of actually caring that somebody succeeds, actually putting other people in front of yourself, you know, those kind of character traits I think are harder to develop in some people. Và so prioritizing that I think is what really makes a difference. & then, you know, on đứng đầu of that, the participants—at least, you know, the seminars that I did, which was a lot, sometimes they’d be a little nervous or they’d have some trepidation coming in, but once you broke the ice, the willingness that people had in that environment khổng lồ put themselves out there và to bởi something that maybe wasn’t comfortable or they weren’t very good at, kind of knowing that they would be guided along the way, like it would always impress me how willing people were to bởi that, you know. Cause it’s not easy. It’s not easy to lớn step into an environment where you know it’s going to lớn be difficult & you know that you probably aren’t at the vị trí cao nhất of the game & yet still vì it. You know? That’s just not easy.

Sean: 11:03 – Every, L1 staff member that I’ve ever talked lớn has some sort of crazy story about something that happened during a seminar. Zach Forrest told me about a time where he lost his pants. What’s the weirdest thing that ever happened to you while working one of those seminars?

Boz: 11:16 – Oh my God. One of the weirdest things that ever happened lớn me. Oh, God. I remember once, early on when we didn’t have a lot of international staff, I had just gotten back from Australia, so I spent a weekend in Sydney, Australia. Và that trip is always rough cause from the West Coast where I live in California, you leave on Wednesday, you get there Friday morning, you miss a day overnight on the flight. & then we would leave Monday morning and get back at the same time of day that you departed. So it was like this weird time travel. & so I just got back to lớn San Francisco, we didn’t have a lot of international staff and somebody had dropped out of a gig in Copenhagen và I get a gọi from Dave Castro on Tuesday morning saying, “Hey, can you hop on a flight tomorrow morning & go lớn Copenhagen?” & I was like, ah, yeah, sure. Whatever the team needs. So I remember just, you know, I at the time didn’t believe that jet lag had that much of an effect on me, I was lượt thích I’ve beat this, I’ve traveled enough that it doesn’t affect me, but man, I was so loopy. I barely remember that trip. It was, I think it took me a week when I got home to figure out what time frame I was on. So that was weird. It’s not that much of like a—certainly not losing my pants. Oh, I got another good one. Austin Malleolo và I, the first time that we ever did a seminar in Moscow, Russia, he và I went lớn a Russian bathhouse & our translator left us there because he had lớn go catch his flight home. So it was just me và Austin naked in a Russian sauna with a bunch of battled Russian guys.

Sean: 13:00 – What can go wrong?

Boz: 13:00 – Yeah, exactly.

Sean: 13:04 – We’ll be back with more from Adrian Bozman after this.

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Sean: 14:49 – Well, most people know you from the judging side of CrossFit and the CrossFit Games. How did you get involved in that?

Boz: 14:55 – That was really just an extension of what I was doing on the seminar team. So I started working seminars in 2007, the Games in 2007 were just kind of, you know, a small gathering as most people know. And I remember when Dave was talking about it and my wife and I had something else going on at the time & we’re like, yeah, we’re not going to lớn go. Và it was just like an inconsequential, “maybe if they do it again.” So fast forward a year and you know, it’s got a little bit more traction and Dave’s like, hey, we’re doing the Games again. Can you come help out? and it was like, yeah, sure. So I showed up in 2008 and he had me run the deadlift-burpee workout because at that Games there were three events on the first day và you as an athlete, it was just on you to bởi vì those three workouts at some point during the day. They had heat start times and you just showed up và if there was room in the heat, you could just walk on và do it. Anyway, so I ran that deadlift workout all day và by the over of the weekend, Dave was calling me his head judge and then we ran with it. So it really was just a kind of a natural extension of being part of the seminar team and being willing khổng lồ take the responsibility when it was given. Nothing more than that.

Sean: 16:12 – So obviously that role has evolved over the past 11, 12 years. What are your responsibilities now when you show up in Madison as a head judge?

Boz: 16:22 – So now, you know, the Games are big enough that we have khổng lồ divide the judging into teams. It’s just impossible with scheduling for one group of judges and one series of head judges to lớn run the individual, team and age group divisions. There’s just no way that we could bởi that. So I think it was around 2012 or 13 we started delegating that out. So we have myself as the head judge of the individuals và then Chuck Carswell và Todd Widman for the teams. And then Eric O’Connor for the last few years has been a heading up the age groupers. So my responsibilities are khổng lồ organize the judging on site and you know, obviously make sure the events are running on time & efficiently, handle any appeals on site, things like that. And in the lead up to lớn that, you know, I helped khổng lồ revise some ofthe events with Dave. I write up all the standards and the briefings and that’s the bulk of it.

Sean: 17:26 – You mentioned briefings & one of my favorite things to bởi vì is when I was ever in an sự kiện that you were the head judge, as media, we got to lớn go khổng lồ the judges’ briefings. We were encouraged to bởi it so we knew what the standards were. And you get some very interesting questions sometimes và I love the way you handle them. What are some of the more bizarre questions that you’ve gotten from athletes over the years?

Boz: 17:49 – Oh, man. Và I’ll tell you, man, handling those questions has been an evolution. I feel lượt thích I’ve mellowed out a little bit over the years. I used to be a little more hardline, but I realized that maybe that’s not the best way to lớn approach that. I’d like to think that I’m more approachable these days. But anyway, yeah, we’ve had some real good ones. I remember your favorite I think is a great one, with the sandbag. The second time we did the sandbag moving event in the Colosseum at Carson.

Sean: 18:19 – This is 2015.

Boz: 18:19 – Yes. & there was a final bag that had to—there was no rules, effectively, it was like you just have lớn get the bags to the other side of the stadium. It’s up khổng lồ you how you want to vị it, with the exception that the red bag, it’s the only one red bag, has lớn be the last one on the pile at the end of the workout. Và oh man, there were so—I won’t name the guilty, but there were so many questions about, “Well how are we going to know the red bag from the other bags? and will the red bag be marked?” & oh man, I was losing my mind.

Sean: 18:47 – It’s red.

Boz: 18:56- I don’t know how much more clear we can make this one.

Sean: 19:00 – I think one of my favorites was it was at the Meridian Regional, it was a team event, and they were asking you something about how you would move the Worm and you finally just said, “I would suggest teamwork.”

Boz: 19:09 – Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. It’s funny because people would tell me lượt thích hey, that was really, you know, funny or good answer, whatever. & half the time I wouldn’t even remember what I said, it was just off the cuff, you know. So anyway. & I remember one time we did, what was the year that Chan took second?

Sean: 19:31 – It was 2012.

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Boz: 19:31 – 2012. OK. I remember that, we did an event on the old track at Carson và it was a rope climb.

Sean: 19:42 – The rope sled.

Boz: 19:42 – Yeah. Sled push. That was one of my all-time favorite events, I love that event. Và some competitors did not love that event.

Sean: 19:48 – Some competitors did not understand the standard on the rope climb either.

Boz: 19:54 – Yes, exactly. All you fans at home, you can go back và watch that on YouTube and figure it out. But Matt dominated that workout, which was fun khổng lồ see. Và I remember in the briefing, there was an athlete that was like, we’d finished everything, no questions. We’re about to leave. Và we get this creeper hand that goes up in the back like, OK, final question. What is it? và it was, I can’t remember exactly, but I’ll paraphrase. It was basically “How will we know when to lớn stop pushing the sled?” My initial reaction in my head was like, man, I should have just said, “Oh crap, I can’t believe we forgot to mark the field.” You know, pretend to panic và tell somebody to go like draw some lines on the field. Of course the field will be marked, you know. Just keep going until you get tired, I don’t know.

Sean: 20:48 – I don’t know how you have the patience to khuyến mãi with some of that, but you vì chưng a great job. How does somebody become a good judge?

Boz: 20:56 – I think it’s a real balance between being able lớn take direction and uptake new direction quickly, because things change, especially at the Games, it’s a very dynamic environment. & you know, things change, plans change. Và so being willing lớn rehearse something, have that ready to go and then modify it at the last second, no questions asked, I think is important. So that kind of flexibility. And then at the same time knowing what things are non-negotiable. So you know, for example, the standard of a squat is always going to lớn be a squat. It’s always going khổng lồ be hips below parallel và stand all the way up. And so, you know, there’s those certain hard-line things that you have to lớn just be unyielding about, so that kind of combination of flexibility but being rigid when it counts. Và to take an even bigger step back, I really think that, you know, sometimes athletes and spectators—and it’s fun to lớn kind of play into this persona, but they get the idea that we’re there to like, no-rep people or, you know, play the bad guy, và that’s not it at all, you know. I really try to ức chế to my team that what we’re there to vì is create an even playing field so that these guys can display the incredible abilities that they have. You know, that’s all it is. I want as good a show as it can be và I want the athletes khổng lồ come out and be able to like, wow everybody with what they can do. & the only way that that’s going khổng lồ happen is if there’s an even playing field. And so that’s really it, is understanding why we’re there I think is huge. So that’s kind of a philosophy I guess. The nuts and bolts is that I think you have to lớn be very familiar with the standard cadre of CrossFit movements. You know, you have khổng lồ understand what a squat looks like. You have to understand what an overhead position looks like. You have lớn understand the basic gymnastics movements that are going khổng lồ show up again và again và again. You know, if you’re still uncertain of those things, well that’s the—

Sean: 23:00 – You mentioned this a little bit, but how bởi vì you deal with the fact that judging is a pretty thankless job và people only notice you guys when they perceive that you have made a mistake?

Boz: 23:12 – Yeah, it can be. But you know, I will say on the other over of that, that we are really lucky, in my opinion. The athletes that we have at the Regionals, the Games, the Open, I dunno, I think it goes back to lớn that whole CrossFit being a weeder. It’s so hard that if your integrity is not great, like you’re just not gonna pursue it long term for the most part. & as an extension of that, the athletes that we get, I can think almost lớn a T, they’re so gracious, you know, và easy khổng lồ work with. Và yeah, emotions run high from time to lớn time. Và I get that, you know, like that makes sense. It’s athletics. It is emotional. It should be. Và so honestly, I really haven’t had that many problems with athletes in that regard. & I guess that’s really the mindset that I try to lớn keep và instill in my team again, is that, hey, look, heat of the moment things get tense, but at the end of the day, we’re all part of this community & we should all be respectful of that. And it doesn’t matter what shirt you’re wearing at the over of the day, lượt thích we are doing this for larger motives than the spectacle of the sport, you know, and I think that’s always been true.

Sean: 24:32 – How did Ro vs Boz get started?

Boz: 24:36 – Oh man, that was when we first started doing the Open. I think it was no more storied than Rory was like, “Hey, you want to vị it together?” & I was like, “Yeah, you’re on.” and then we just did. And so every year that the xuất hiện has happened, we’ve had a little friendly competition. & then when they started doing the announcements, I remember the first one we did was just outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. & the equipment was still set up. Dan Bailey và who else was there? It wasn’t Rich. Dan và somebody else had just done the workout.

Sean: 25:15 – Was this the one in the garage.

Boz: 25:17 – What’s that?

Sean: 25:17 – Was that the one in the garage?

Boz: 25:18 – No, this was several years before that. It was—it doesn’t matter. Yeah, the equipment was still phối up & the production was all tearing down. Like the cameras were, you know, kind of getting ready lớn be shut off. People were leaving & there was only lượt thích 10 people left và Rory’s like, “Hey, theequipment’s still out. You want khổng lồ just like get this done?” & I was like, “Hell yeah, let’s vị it so we don’t have lớn worry about it tomorrow.” So we did. Và I think there was at that point, you know, 10 people drinking beer yelling at us & heckling us and us stumbling through the workout as the everyman does. And we were like, oh, we should try to vị this as often as we can, you know, just get it done after the event’s over. & then that happened for a little while. Và then one day somebody came up to lớn us and was like, “Hey, we’re going to keep the cameras rolling.” & we were like, “What? That’s a terrible idea, what are you talking about?” và so they did and then eventually it got to lớn the point where you guys would gọi it, which was, oh man.

Sean: 26:23 – That was a blast.

Boz: 26:26 – Easily the most stressful part of my year, right there. God.

Sean: 26:30 – Why do you think that became as popular as it did? I, you know, I don’t know. I think it’s because the xuất hiện can always lull you into a false sense of security. Lượt thích I will catch myself, I remember distinctly at the sự kiện we did with Vellner and Fikowski in 2017, it was lượt thích dumbbell snatches, burpees, and I watched them do it & it was lượt thích a dumbbell is not that heavy & there’s not that many reps. Seems like they didn’t slow down. I think I’m just going to lượt thích not break it up. You know, I convinced myself that that was a reasonable strategy. Và then of course, halfway through Round 1, I’m like, “Oh my God. This is terrible.” và so, you know, I have to lớn laugh at myself because I’ve been doing this for how many years, và I still convince myself that, oh, I can hang, you know, oh, it shouldn’t be that bad. And then you’d start going và you’re like, ugh, this is completely different. So you know, I think it just speaks to that everyman thing, you know, like Rory và I are fit, I’m very happy with my cấp độ of fitness, you know, but I’m not anywhere close lớn the vị trí cao nhất of the food chain. So, you know, I think it just brings things back down khổng lồ reality a little bit.

Sean: 27:48 – No, I think you’re 100% right. We would watch those workouts and then we’d say, OK, well that doesn’t look that bad. Then you guys would bởi vì them. Và I would tell people how fit you & Ro are. It’s like, yeah, this is the way that this is going lớn look, & those guys are probably better than you. So it definitely gives people a good perspective. You guys got to have some fun with it too. You put together some videos that you know, promoted it. What was it like getting to vì chưng that?

Boz: 28:09 – Oh, that was super fun. I mean that was just like an off-the-cuff thing where Rory was like, hey, we should vì some promotional work. It was like, all right. Và then we just took a day và did that. And I mean that was a blast.

Sean: 28:21 – They had you getting slapped in the stomach and they had Ro get slapped in the face. What was the most fun part about being able to vị that for you?

Boz: 28:31 – Oh, I think just being able to lớn have goofy ideas & run with it. It’s like, you know, it’s one of those things where it’s like, how often bởi vì you have the opportunity where you’re like, oh, that would be totally ridiculous. Và then you actually vì chưng it.

Sean: 28:46 – Yeah, those were super entertaining. How are you maintaining your fitness nowadays?

Boz: 28:51 – Well, I still am doing CrossFit four days, five days a week, depending on the week. I started doing Jujitsu at the beginning of this year, so that’s been kicking my butt and very humbling. But I love it and it’s been great. So that’s kinda it; a mixture of those two things. I have a garage gym and we affiliated actually recently, well I guess a year ago now. And we have a group of people that comes over a couple times a week and, you know, we don’t charge anything. It’s just if you happen to be around, stop by, and so I’ll jump in with those guys. Và that’s been a blast. So, yeah, really, it’s just same old, same old.

Sean: 29:39 – What’s the best part about working out in your own garage?

Boz: 29:44 – Oh man. It’s xuất hiện 24/7 và you get to lớn pick the music.

Sean: 29:47 – That can often be problematic, I know.

Boz: 29:52 – Oh man. Yeah, I think that’s probably the best part. Và you know, I think it’s just fun because it doesn’t have lớn be anything but what it is. Và what I mean by that is like, I worked in affiliates for years & it was great, but your time when you’re working và managing an affiliate, it’s often not your own. & so when you’re there working out, you’re still kind of on call. And if members come in & they want lớn talk to lớn you about something or you know, like, they take priority, as they should. And so I think having a space that you can just tune everything else out và it’s just yours for that time, however much time you can squeeze out of it, I think it’s super valuable. And I mean, I would encourage everybody khổng lồ have some sort of space that they can vì chưng that. & you know, when I lived in San Francisco for forever, I didn’t have space, I didn’t have a garage. And so for the longest time I would just have like a couple of kettlebells in my kitchen and door-jam pull-up bar, & I would bởi vì workouts in my kitchen all the time. You know, I would vày kettlebell snatches and burpees or strict pull-ups and push-ups or whatever. & even just that, where it’s like nobody’s looking, it doesn’t matter what the kết thúc state is, but it’s just honest work. I think it’s super important.

Sean: 31:09 – What now bởi vì you want to sort of accomplish with your fitness moving forward? You mentioned that you’re doing Jujitsu. What would you lượt thích to layer onto that?

Boz: 31:17 – You know, just keep it going. I don’t have a lot of hard goals. I never have. I just want lớn continue to vì chưng the things that I do, indefinitely. And you know, getting back khổng lồ one of your earlier questions about what attracted me khổng lồ CrossFit in the first place, I really think that the sense of physical freedom is important lớn me. You know, so for example, I don’t have a lot of hard pursuits. I don’t have a lot of hard physical goals. But if my friends say, “Hey, we’re taking a mountain climbing trip, we’re going to lớn go bởi vì Mount Rainier, vị you want to come with us?” and you know, I’m like, “Yeah, I can bởi that.” Sure, you might need to train for it & get prepared & all those things that you should do, but I don’t have lớn worry is this going khổng lồ be physically possible for me? So just being able khổng lồ hang onto that as long as I can, that’s the goal. And it always has been for me. You know, I’ll be 36 in a couple of weeks & honestly, you know, physically I don’t feel any different than I did when I was in my twenties và I just want to keep that going as long as I can.

Sean: 32:25 – You’ve been able khổng lồ travel the world & have a front-row seat lớn the CrossFit Games, you know, for the past 11 years. What’s been the best part about your CrossFit journey?

Boz: 32:35 – You know, I think just the network of people that have been drawn this thing. Và I mean, man, it’s uncountable the number of people, unique people, that I’ve met that have become my close friends, that you know, I’ve been able to tóm tắt life with. I never would’ve guessed that as a byproduct of being into working out that that would have been possible. And even today, you know, lượt thích the landscape obviously at HQ has changed and the Games have changed. Và you know, there’s been a lot differing opinions about that và that’s fine, but at the kết thúc of the day, it’s lượt thích the people that are there—I don’t think any of that’s changed my relationship with them. & I think that that’s a real testament khổng lồ the chất lượng of people that are there và the power nguồn of this thing no matter what shape it ends up taking, you know, so lớn me, that’s really what it’s all about. & maybe that’s cliche, but man, you know, if you had asked me in the early 2000s when I started stumbling into this stuff và said, “Hey, where vì chưng you think this is going khổng lồ go? bởi vì you see yourself being one of the figureheads of a sport that grows out of this? and being somebody who’s developed staff that teaches this stuff worldwide?” và you know, I would have been like, you’re crazy. Like, what are you talking about? This is just something I like to do. So I don’t know, man. Maybe that’s just getting older & being able to lớn look back at something that you’ve stuck with for a long time. But yeah, it’s been pretty incredible to see the reach.

Sean: 34:15 – và you mentioned that you are a figurehead now of this sport and you helped build it. When you look back on that whole process, what are you most proud of?

Boz: 34:24 – Oh man. That’s a good question. I have a hard time with that. I have a hard time acknowledging my piece, & I have a hard time, I dunno, yeah, that’s a tough question for me. I would have khổng lồ give that some serious thought. I guess that despite how big things have gotten, I would lượt thích to think that it’s still accessible và the people at the bộ vi xử lý core of it are still the same people that they’ve been. You know, like, I’d lượt thích to think at least that if you see me around at an event, like, yeah, come say hi, come hang out. Like I want lớn talk khổng lồ you. I’m the same person that I was when I was in my early twenties just getting into this stuff. I’m proud of that, but, you know, at the kết thúc of the day, it’s lượt thích volunteer, staffer, experienced coach, affiliate owner, there’s just an even playing field, I think. & I dunno what that is. It’s just, again, I think it comes back to lớn the hard reality of you’re going lớn be humbled at some point. It’s going khổng lồ be hard for everybody & therefore everybody’s on the same playing field, you know? and I think keeping that culture is—I’m proud of that.

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Sean: 35:43 – Well Boz, I appreciate you taking the time doing this, man. It’s always a pleasure khổng lồ talk to lớn you và hear some great stories, và I wish you the best of luck moving forward.

Boz: 35:49 – Big thanks to lớn Adrian Bozman for taking the time to talk with me. If you want to follow him on social media, you can find him on Instagram. He is